What's a good software for collaborative projects? I was thinking along the lines of a wiki, but a kanban / jira-like board is not unreasonable either.
While I have a lot of respect for MediaWiki, it's kind of total overkill.
@deadsuperhero I used to like dokuwiki for lightweight wiki's, but haven't used them in a while now.
@deadsuperhero I've seen people strongly recommending Notion.
Had good experience with github-issues, but for the love of god stay away from jira! Small stuff is too cumbersome, bigger stuff is too complex. I've never seen it actually used when it was installed in a team.
I get it, but Jira seems to ride a bullshit-bingo-wave. "Doing Agile? Jira is the way to go!"
Most agile team I ever worked in used private github issues. It wasn't designed as agile but got that way simply because creating and closing issues was so easy everybody did it all the time! We knew the state of the project because there just happened to be issues for every aspect.
@deadsuperhero @Amarmust I don't quite see how?
Our workflow would usually be far away from Jira, in a repo and wiki. So nobody would look at Jira and if you wanted Devs to do anything, you had to physically come Devcave and ask us to check Jira. And of course issues weren't answered on Jira, because that took too much time! We had post its, emails, commit-messages and whiteboards, because that's what was low friction enough to actually be useful.
All Jira did for PM was relay responsibility.
@GammaSQ Hmm, that seems really solid for events or anything that involves meeting up in a physical space. But for ongoing tasks for a non-coding project or a knowledge-base, might not quite be what we're looking for.
Thanks for the recommendation though!
@deadsuperhero hmmm you want project management or just knowledge sharing?
@jalcine I'm kind of torn.
Right now, my process is that I have a long note document full of bullet points for things I'm investigating (media) and I move them around in the document as I do stuff.
I think I want some combination of task management and a wiki, but it seems like a wiki might be overkill?
@benhamill @jalcine @cwebber @deadsuperhero Also, in answer to the original question, I'd recommend Markdown + Gitlab / Github. It's super lightweight, easy to learn, fairly powerful, and gives the end user access to a universe of potential tools while providing a standard format for interchange. Plus it renders to a pretty web page :)
@mishari @benhamill @jalcine @cwebber @deadsuperhero I've not used Fossil. I recommended gitlab/github for exactly that kind of simplicity! I was extrapolating a bit, I'm mostly used to Github, which has some really great simplifying facilities to make contribution possible for decidedly non technical users. What attributes does fossil bring to the table that make it simpler to both work with and maintain? And are there any nice web GUIs around it like gitlab?
@deadsuperhero oh this is a personal tool? eh some outlining tool could work imo
@jalcine Eh, it's for VidCommons, the idea being that information can live in one place and certain things can be represented as being "In Progress" or "Done"
Like I said, I have been taking the personal tool approach, but if I want this to be a community collaboration, it kind of has to be opened up and made available to those who want to jump in.
@deadsuperhero ahh gotcha. looks like you might have found something!
@deadsuperhero if you're looking for a scrum/kanban board i can recommend to check out trello. If its a coding project you can use gitlab. Its has a issue tracker and wiki.
@orekix lmao, not quite!
@deadsuperhero For the separate backend/frontend thing, you could simplify deployment of that by using Docker.
@MatejLach True, that is not the worst thing. I'm not even opposed to being hosted as a free project on their own server for now.
@deadsuperhero Of the collaborative websites I've looked at, Taiga's UI is the /least/ clunky, sadly. I've yet to find one I really like that seems well suited to keeping a team of people on track remotely
@succfemboi eh, my project isn't a coding project though.
Use the Service Now Agile module if you want to see a kludgy UI... You'll be running back lol
Thanks for that! Looks interesting and I might consider running my own.
@deadsuperhero I know you said software and I assume you prefer open source, but Airtable is pretty amazing. Upfront, you'd have some setup to make what you want, but it's a powerful service.
@sikkdays I've heard very good things, but I barely understand what it is even. 😛
@deadsuperhero Same here. I've had some help from a friend in getting my own tables together. The Film Frown Podcast is organized through that now. It's sort of a more user-friendly database mixed with spreadsheets, so you can take data from different categories and mic then together.
Ex. You fill out a form of movies (from a table I made) you are available for and it populates a schedule of guests for me.
@deadsuperhero Apache Wave?
@uranther ew no
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