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> be me
> make server literally with the goal of making it easy and cheap to host, because i think it empowers people to host their own infrastructure
> 1 year later
> "hey Pleroma could be pretty good for people without many resources, even if the devs are all horrible people"
@lain

i think people are starting to realize that we are not horrible people :)

@kaniini I suspect a lot of the hate for Pleroma comes from two sources:

- Historic "political division" between GNU Social and Mastodon as in terms of leftie vs alt-right (which wasn't even GNU Social's developers' doing or desire really), some folks from that space moving to Pleroma and thus to a lot of folks Pleroma being mentally branded that way
- @lain is the fediverse's class clown and recent events have lead many people to associate that kind of irreverent humor with undesirable stuff

Sean "Loverboy" Tilley @deadsuperhero

@cwebber @kaniini @lain First reason makes sense, but the second reason is kind of ridiculous.

@deadsuperhero @kaniini I'm not making a judgement call, just giving my analysis

also I don't know how @lain will feel about being labeled "the fediverse's class clown" but I suspect they won't deny it ;)

@cwebber @lain @kaniini @deadsuperhero

honestly...thanks for the input personally I have no idea of its use but ay, maybe it will help :)

@deadsuperhero @kaniini @lain fwiw I'm glad Pleroma exists and I hope that:

a) development continues and is great
b) a diverse set of users adopt it

does Pleroma have a code of conduct btw? Might send (part of) the right message to adopt one

@cwebber @lain @kaniini @deadsuperhero no, all that making up a Code of Conduct would accomplish is virtue signalling and complaining. Its presence doesn't make anyone "safer" any more than the TSA does. It's just for show.

@hector @cwebber @lain @kaniini @deadsuperhero Du bist kein Gangster, nein, denn du dealst mit Dope (dealst mit Dope).
Du bist nicht real.
Du bist nur Show (Nur. Show.)

@hector @deadsuperhero @cwebber @lain @kaniini
I'm of the impression that CoCs create a hostile environment for socially awkward/clumsy people, and end up being selectively enforced for political reasons, causing projects to descend into toxic drama and core developers leaving over it.

There have been numerous notable cases of CoCs destroying projects by encouraging 'conduct' that harms and excludes far more than the absence of a CoC does.
@deadsuperhero @lain @kaniini @cwebber The second really does hold some heft with a certain large segment of Mastodon users, though. Talk is cheap says the maxim, but for people who are always on social media, talk is literally everything -- the measure of a person. So joking about things that are off-limits to them is a very serious sort of offense.